Stop fighting for feminism | Minh Thuy Ta | TEDxBaDinh

Stop fighting for feminism | Minh Thuy Ta | TEDxBaDinh


Translator: Ivana Korom
Reviewer: Ha Anh Tran When I was a teenager,
I had my first boyfriend. He made a statement very clear
from the first day that we dated, “No one can give you a ride home
except me”. After that, he beat me four times
in three years we were together. When we broke up, he still said, “No one could ever love you,
as much as I do”. I kind of believed it too, you know,
at least no one beat me that hard. Later on, when I was still young
and beautiful, there was a guy flirting
and chasing me for months, sending me gifts. One day, he gave me a call, “I quit! I don’t think you like boys”. When I was pregnant,
people asked my friend, “What? We thought she was a lesbian!” And then they found out
that I’m a single mom. And they’re like, “Ahh! Yes!
She’s a lesbian”. (Laughter) When I did my first casting
for my TV host job in Vietnam TV, I did it pretty well,
they called me and said, “You passed”. – Yayy! –
“Now you can become our writer”. I was like, ” What?” Because your hair’s too short
and your skin is too dark for being on TV. But then three years after, after working very hard,
I got my first talk show and they shut down my talk show
for three months because I wore a nose pin. When I was writing my first book,
a publisher came to me and said, “We only can publish your book if you change one detail
in the first chapter.” So in that chapter, the character had sex for the first time
when she was 17. “Can you make it, 18?” (Laughter) So that’s the story of my life
and you know at the end I’ve still become a TV host,
I’m still a single mom, I still have a boyfriend, clearly, not a lesbian at all and I still published my first book. But that draftily tells you a life
of a Vietnamese women in Vietnam. Sometimes you have to accept
to be beaten by your boyfriend, you have to fall for anyone that’s rich,
good-looking and go after you. You cannot have sex
when you’re under 18. You cannot have a nose pin,
dark skin or short hair. So simply you cannot look too different. But that’s just the first layer,
there’s so many things under it. There was a time I worked as a Vietnam
ambassador for walk free in New York about human trafficking,
raise awareness to stop human trafficking. And I interviewed few girls
who are the victims of human trafficking. So human trafficking means
that you got sold by someone you know to China to become some stranger’s wife,
to become sex slave. And then they’ve been fighting
very very hard to get out of their prison. And you know what, after years
finally they made it home to Vietnam. They met their parents
and their own parents abandoned them. They insult them for being
such a bad daughter, being away from home for so long. And you know what is even funnier,
if they walk around their village, they might bump into the guy
that tricked them and sold them to China before, but couldn’t do anything about it. Because in Vietnam if you stole a chicken
and sold it, people might put you in jail, but if you tricked a girl and sold her,
there’s no law yet. And sometimes, they have to stand
to be sent to some shelter just to learn some skill, to get back
to the community as a normal girl. So imagine what they’ve been through. And I really admire them
for doing all that. it’s been many years, many centuries, and the history has an amazing example
for you. I’m just a tiny person in Vietnam,
and what I did is very tiny. I know there’s a bigger scale than that. But go back to the talk today. Nowadays, I felt like
feminism’s become a trend, and this trend is overrated. So, here’s the media world, and you will see all the faces,
all the feminists, that they try to build these days in those superstar,
all pop stars I got a chance to interview, Demi Lovato and Katy Perry. And they’re such soft women. There’s a time they have to be in rehab,
very hard to get back to their real life. And there’s time they felt they’re so chubby
and they have to excercise a lot to get back to the image
people used to see them. And Katy Perry, when she was in Vietnam, she was clumsy because she couldn’t find
a good word to give a speech. So all that moments,
but without being very close to them, there’s no way you could see. All you see is this: the feminism, strong women. Media built such a strong image
of the new women. And now everything is overrated,
if you look tough – you’re a feminist, if you’re successful in your career –
you’re feminist, If you’re not married yet,
you’re feminist or maybe something is wrong with you. And then people like me suddently become a role model
for young women. They’d come to me and say.
“Thuy Minh – I want to be like you,
I want to be strong, I want to be successfulI, I want to travel the world,
I want to become a single mom like you”. You know I became a single mom,
not because I wanted to give a statement of my own love life
that I don’t need men. No! I became a single mom because that’s the only choice
I [had at] that time. I didn’t get married
with the father of my son, because I’m not in love with him anymore. I know nowadays, many Vietnamese girls get pressured
from the society and family that they have to choose
a certain career path. They have to get married
at a certain age. They have to have a child
at a certain age, spent a certain time with their family. But then I think
men get the same pressure. Are there many men here? Do you have pressures
to have a career path, get married and have children? It’s not that women have the pressure,
everyone can get that pressure. So go back, I’m sorry if you hurry
and settle down with some wrong partner. It’s your fault, it’s not because
you’re a woman in Vietnam. No! Because go back to my life,
I did everything for myself, not only because I’m a woman,
but let’s say you’re a strong woman already,
and you want to fight for feminism. You want to become a feminist,
and you try to show to the world, as the pop stars
that you watch in media. You want to show that you can
travel the world, you’re successful. You can do anything without a man. You can fix your car. But let’s say if you’re very successful
in your fight, then where you’re going to be. There’re only 2 scripts for feminists. You would end up alone
because that’s what you ask for. You don’t need a man
or you don’t need a woman. I think that’s pretty sad,
all of us need someone. Even the strongest man or woman would love to have somebody
next to [them]. And I think it’s pretty sad if you end up
just by yourself, because you keep giving a statement
for your whole life that you’re independent
and you don’t need anyone. The second script is you try
to punish men and then force men to [go] through what you’ve been through. Have you heard of Mensiety?
Anyone, have you heard of Mensiety? So it’s when men feel very anxious
because around [them] there’re so many suddenly so many powerful,
independent women. So he worries, like, “One day I’m going to
lose my own power”. Anyone of you ever
get through this feeling? Good! Good! Because deep down
honestly I believe a real man, shouldn’t be thinking that way. Shouldn’t look at women as the threat. That’s very different from women because women think
any men’s problems are for men. But men, I don’t think they care much
about feminist or you know how strong, because they would love that, but let’s see one day,
the world is flipped. Our men suddenly don’t have
to go to work anymore. I think they’ll love it. I just heard the man and he brings
that idea of doing nothing for 10 minutes. I’m sorry but that’s a men’s world. Men have a box in their brains,
the empty box. Women cannot do that,
when we do nothing, we paint our nails, we’re thinking about what to do next,
who to call to talk to. We don’t do nothing, so I think men
would love there’s a world that they can stay home, put some toys
to the kids, play games all day, watch TV and then wash dishes
when the wife came home. So, but for me as a woman,
I don’t like to see that scene. It’s a little bit illy for me. If I go home,
I see my man washing dishes. And then I have to go out and fix our car. I don’t think that’s the script
any women wants. And feminists, I don’t think
you’d feel happier with that scene. Are you happier? (Laughter) Ok! In that case, this morning
I was surprised I’m not going to point out the person who that is. I just know a couple
who are the ambassadors, and the lady, just yesterday – and they said they would
attend the TED talk. They talked to each other they said only
one of them could attend the talk. And the first thing in my mind is, of course, this ambassador, of course,
the man is going to be at the talk and the lady is going
to stay at home and take care of the kids. And then who came up today? The lady! So just a little example to say
that there’s many things that could change
and many different concepts. but at the same time I’d like to say, if you want to become a feminist,
that’s your choice. If you don’t want to become a feminist,
that’s your choice too. But make sure that’s your choice! Look back at my life a little bit,
the other day my boyfriend said, “I think you should spend
more time with your kids”. I was very sad, very pissed
and I came up to him and said, “I’m sorry, I’m a mom to my son but at the same time
I’m the man in the family. And at the same time I’m myself,
I need my morning coffee, I need my little alone time.” Some time I could travel
by myself but that’s mean, and I don’t want that conflict
with a man, mother or a father, a man who work everyday. So be anyone that you want to be. I think there’s no definition
that you should become or the media lead you to be. Can be strong, can be feminist
but make sure, that’s you. And as a woman I think the most powerful
woman is someone know that you’re soft, know that you’re weak, know that sometimes you need
somebody around you, know that you can cry and show
your emotion. One line, one sentence I really like. “The secret of happiness is no secret! So be happy, be yourself!” Thank you!
(Applause)

100 Comments

  1. These talks remind me of a quip Dean Martin once told on his Dean Martin Roast shows. Not everyone is qualified to be roasted. Your name has to be in the telephone book.

  2. The comment section should be titled:

    Antifeminists discover the gaps of liberal feminism while ignoring that all these issues and more, better explained and without equidistant, hyperindividualistic comparisons have been already pointed out by other feminists for literally decades

    A bit long, I know.

  3. What about the women in Britain whose lives were ruined by their having their pensions stolen from them. Many have been driven to suicide. Women suddenly had no rights then, and the media has kept very quiet about it.. Let us get real. If it suits the Corrupt Super Rich then women will be treated like dirt, as with afore mentioned pensions; however, if the media appear to be giving voice to the ' interests' of women , then women are being used to make us all worse off. That is the simple truth.

  4. The description for the Talk explains what she is trying to say. It's her idea of the concept of feminism and relationships. I enjoyed the video.

  5. Coming a few years late and seeing all the "ya'll don't understand her" but can't find a single comment critizising her😂

  6. I find that women who speak out against feminism are way more empowered and strong than women that blindly follow it

  7. One thing I would disagree with her on is men or anxious not because women are strong, but because a women can take everything he has earned by saying he did somethig to her that he didn't. That is a real concern that men have and we are doing things to protect ourselves.

  8. Real feminism… just take on board a man's: education, skills, ambition, responsibilities, imagination, creativity, drive, work ethic and self-accountability, get to work and stop whining about inequality. Or just do what you do now but quit whining about wage gaps without doing the actual work. No woman is ever going to let a man stay at home while she works and pays for him. Women have options, men don't. You can do everything a man can do (and more, cos we're easy on you) – or do nothing and get married, feet up. Women have the real privilege, but you never hear that. Most women's lives are subsidised by male labour. Either directly or via the State. Is there a movement for men? No – it's called win or fail by your own efforts – those are OUR options.

  9. If I would be her boyfriend, talking about a concern of me to her, and she would give me that arrogant and egoistic anser, I would quit.

  10. Feminism isn’t saying “we don’t need men”. Of course we need men. But we need to be treated equally to men.

  11. You are very firm, very focused and very intelligent. You have an independent mind too. No one needs divisions. What you need is equal rights and justice, which feminism is not going to produce. Feminism is a vessel for polarisation.

  12. Women have myths about what men believe and how they react to an independent woman. In my experience, if a woman is stronger she makes our unit stronger. If she makes more money than I do well, it's her money. I don't care.

  13. Some people don't want to spend their lives with another person, and it's not sad, or lonely. You still have family and friends. Just because it doesn't fit the norm of a happy end, it's not a bad ending. Pittying people who don't want to have a significant other is pressuring them to marry and is not a healthy decision

  14. Western feminism has completely ruin feminism for other 3rd world countries where women are facing real problems
    Might as well change the name to avoid all of that bs

  15. The world ain't ready for this talk. But she is on point, very well spoken, and has done comendable work to say at the very least.

  16. Feminists don't embrace all strong women. Feminists embrace all liberal and leftist women.
    You don't get to be "anyone you want to be" if you choose to have kids. You need to give your kids your time and love them, non-stop. That is your new job, regardless if you stay home with them or if you go work outside the home.

  17. Why do these talks always start with an example of a man being over-bearing and violent? Should male-empowerment talks start with an example of women being violent and horrible?

  18. We need humanism. Men and woman have there own unique struggles. We are hyper focused on woman's issues and then men are ignored or belittled when they speak up about their issues.

  19. A women who chooses feminism might die alone. Because that is what she chose. DAAMMN!! But that's EXACTLY RIGHT!!!!! Good for her for saying an unspoken truth. The strongest people can admit that they are really weak and needy (we ALL ARE) and it's the height of vanity and stupidity to think you're not. No person is an island.

  20. Manxiety..whaattt,lol..
    Men couldnt care less about any powerfull men around them let alone women. its either good to go or leave her behind, dont try to put men on women's shoes

  21. You don't HAVE to wear a nose pin and if your boss doesn't like it then you are free to seek employment elsewhere. You don't HAVE to be a single mother (not to be confused with a widow). I think some of your examples are wrong and ridiculous.

  22. Feminism isn’t the savior, the magic cure. Feminism is a weapon that is used to punish both men and women for issues that are deeply rooted in the evils of culture and society and gender expectations. Men shouldn’t be fighting women, women shouldn’t fight men… we are all just members of this Earth and NO ONE deserves to be punished in any way for their gender. Opportunities shouldn’t be denied because of gender and expectations of certain genders should not be acceptable. Equality… fight for equality, fight for freedom and the right for everyone, man and woman, young and old to live life how they want it, without rejection and prejudice! This lady knows what she is talking about. I’m a woman and there are plenty of women issues, and there are plenty of un-spoken issues that affect the men in our lives every day. We must have compassion and love and support each other on our different paths in life ❤️

  23. First wave feminism and second wave feminism fought for rights
    Third wave feminism fights to tear men down, swapping over to the left
    Which is fine as they can match BLM, LGBT, Antifa, etc aka other groups associated with the left who like to tear down certain groups of people.

  24. Điều buồn cười là người việt mình phải xem cô ấy nói chuyện bằng tiếng anh :))
    và điều đơn giản hơn cho vấn đề này là: kệ cha chúng nó, ngu thì chết bệnh tật gì!
    thuy minh: tại sao cô lại nói cho chúng nó biết làm gì? chúng nó đâu phải vấn đề của chúng ta đâu?

  25. its cool what she stated,but many of the things she said were underestimatin' the very power and the changes feminism comes with

  26. Simply put, do what YOU want, not the you OTHERS way. Because others won't UNDERSTAND, RELATE or CARE about you. But YOU will. You'll find those that see who YOU really are, and those are the ones you should keep close. Everyone else, just tell them "YOU is not for sale."

  27. To some people in the comments' section and the Tedx talker: do you remember the initial definition of feminism? – the belief in social, economic and political equality of the sexes

  28. Person regurgitates all the tired stereotypes about feminism and the whole comments section nods their head like puppets. What a waste of time.

  29. I like what she said, just wanted to note that feminism is not about role and task "flipping" , it's about equal right of participation in those.

  30. Being a single mom is not so great unless you have strong support from family and friends. Just ask their kids. But having kids with a husband is not always so great either, unless the husband himself is a good father. I hope Vietnam will learn to value their daughters more.

  31. You're talking about feminism as it is portrayed in pop culture. That is very different from the dictionary definition of feminism. I believe(or rather, I hope) most women identifying as feminists don't identify with the pop-culture interpretation of feminism.

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  33. What a great talk 🙂 yes i want a caring housewife/mom, I don't need i second man.. But that's what most woman want to be today,,,, Man… No thanks.

  34. Her boy friend said spend more time with the kids and she got pissed. Look at the divorce filed by women my husband is not spending time with my kids or they cheated because the husband was not spending Time. Welcome to Men's world. You haven't even scratched the surface.

  35. She really REALLY doesn't understand what feminism means; why is this woman on stage?!?!
    Feminism simply means that woman's rights are human rights & that both genders have equal rights in society & under the law!

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